From Andrew Bolt:
Record ice melt in the Arctic – 5040 mentions in Google News overnight.
Record ice in the Antarctic: 962 mentions.
From Andrew Bolt:
Record ice melt in the Arctic – 5040 mentions in Google News overnight.
Record ice in the Antarctic: 962 mentions.
I do hope people realize that we are in an inter-glaciation period: when the glaciers are in the process of receeding and, perhaps, melting completely for a few centuries.
It’s that geological cycle thingie…glaciers receede and melt, then grow and cover most of the Earth, then receede again…hence the name ‘cycle’.
I wish they did…but 15,000 years back seems like quite a long time.
Me, I am hoping the absence of glaciers continues…call me crazy; but there it is.
Jay, kindly read more (in the Houston Post, no less, where one would not be surprised to find support for the simple conclusion that “Antarctic sea is growing, therefore global warming does not exist.”)
http://blog.chron.com/sciguy/2012/09/does-the-expanding-antarctic-sea-ice-disprove-global-warming/
Best wishes, Robert
Interesting article and thank you.
The article fails to mention the huge storm which accounted for a great deal of the Arctic “melt” http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/arctic-storm.html nor does it not that the Antarctic ice is at the highest level ever recorded by the satellites. Plus, and let’s keep focus here, the article fails to draw any direct link between CO2 and the Arctic melt.
I have no doubt that the ice in the Arctic is low. It is and it has been before….So what?
Jay,
If you look at the two sea ice anomaly charts in the story, you will see that Antarctic changes are very small, so that while “greatest extent ever” may be technically true, it is a very small increase across time. Also the “ever” part suggests that measurements have been made for a very long time, but they hae only been made since 1979, so “the 13th greatest extent” (out of 33 or so years) is not as dramatic as that phrase would imply. Now look at the Arctic anomalies. I don’t know about the big storm, but accepting that as a fact, no storm accounts for the much larger decrease that has occurred *over numerous years* . The percent decline dwarfs the very small increase in the south. As for the Arctic sea ice being low in the 1920s, please cite your evidence. I keep an open mind, but I am hearing that this is the first time that ships (except icebreakers) have been able to navigate the Northwest Passage, which suggests to me that they could not in the 1920s.
Robert
Robert,
Your remark as to “measurements for a very long time” is amusing: both the Arctic and the Antarctic measurements date from 1979 – the beginning of the satellite era. Neither are over a long time.
On the extent of the Antarctic ice I refer you to http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2012/09/26/antarctica-gains-2400-manhattans-of-ice-overnight/ and here: http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/S_timeseries.png
As to the storm, NASA seems to have noticed it: http://www.climatedepot.com/a/17623/NASA-finally-admits-it-Arctic-cyclone-in-August–broke-up-and-wreaked-havoc-on-sea-ice–Reuters-reports-Arctic-storm-played-key-role-in-ice-reduction
As to the 1920’s – http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2011/02/25/is-the-glass-99-full-or-is-the-mind-99-empty/
I have not seen any reference to ships making passage through the NorthWest Passage…NorthEast from Europe to Asia, perhaps as this is a fairly common route. But this year, so far as I know, no serious ship even tried the NorthWest passage. (But I could certainly be wrong about that.) I do know that a Shell Arctic drilling rig was pretty much defeated by ice in the Bering Straits and north of Alaska.