The Climate Catechism

Our Minister of the Environment, when she is not touting science advice from entertainer Bill Nye, has taken it upon herself to introduce a motion in the House of Commons which affirms the articles of the climate alarm faith.

  • That the House recognize that:
  • (a) climate change is a real and urgent crisis, driven by human activity, that impacts the environment, biodiversity, Canadians’ health, and the Canadian economy;
  • (b) Canadians are feeling the impacts of climate change today, from flooding, wildfires, heat waves and other extreme weather events which are projected to intensify in the future;
  • (c) climate change impacts communities across Canada, with coastal, northern and Indigenous communities particularly vulnerable to its effects; and
  • (d) action to support clean growth and meaningfully reduce greenhouse gas emissions in all parts of the economy are necessary to ensure a safer, healthier, cleaner and more prosperous future for our children and grandchildren;
  • and, therefore, that the House declare that Canada is in a national climate emergency which requires, as a response, that Canada commit to meeting its national emissions target under the Paris Agreement and to making deeper reductions in line with the Agreement’s objective of holding global warming below two degrees Celsius and pursuing efforts to keep global warming below 1.5 degrees Celsius.

This is a religious rather than political (much less scientific) document. It is framed in such a way as to make voting against the motion an act of heresy rather than a policy disagreement.

climate change is a real and urgent crisis, driven by human activity” is the equivalent of the ringing declaration of faith embodied in the Nicene Creed’s opening,

“We believe in one God,
the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all that is, seen and unseen.”

If you doubt that, if you cannot fully affirm that, you will have a very hard time being a Christian. So it is with Climate Barbie’s attestation of climate change faith.

Which is the challenge for Conservatives. Many, if not all, of the Conservative MPs will have legitimate doubts about elements of this motion, but dare they vote against it given that it embodies the fundamental doctrine that “climate change is a real and urgent crisis”? Can they go back to their constituencies accused of apostasy? Of denying the life-defining reality of climate change?

What McKenna and the Liberals are trying to do is elevate the truth of climate change above questions of policy much less science. Either you are a righteous person who accepts the truth of a national climate crisis or you are an evil climate denier, heathen and all round no-goodnick.

The sad fact is that, while there will be Conservative MPs willing to have the courage of their doubts, I suspect the vast majority will opt for the quiet life and give Climate Barbie their vote.

Henry IV of France is reported to have said, “Paris is worth a Mass.” I fear that even the more intelligent Conservatives, rather than fight the Liberals and their tame media, will make a similar calculation and affirm the cultish nonsense McKenna is peddling.

Sad.

 

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19 thoughts on “The Climate Catechism

  1. Neil Wilson says:

    I wish the Conservatives would recognize that it has not been proven that any climate change that is happening is caused by human generated CO2. Nor has it been proven that any climate change that is happening will be catastrophic even if human generated CO2 is contributing to such warming. Therefore we should ignore the Paris Accord and its impossible targets and we should not be taxed for CO2!!

    I think we are near the point where calling out catastrophic anthropogenic global warming (CAGW) as a scam will generate more political points than the hypocritical position that politicians take.

    NB Skippy and Barbie are not hypocrites because they are fanatic believers – just like any other cult members. Most other politicians don’t accept the myth of CAGW but all except Trump are too scared to come clean so to speak.

    • John Cross says:

      Neil, I could agree with most of your statement, but I would guess that is because you use very lose definitions.

      For example, I agree that there is no proof that climate change is caused by human generated CO2. But that is because proof as generally understood does not exist in science. What we have is a theory that adding CO2 causes the earth to warm and a huge amount of evidence to backup that theory.

      In regards to calling out CAGW as a scam, perhaps but that is again because of a definition, in this case the word catastrophic. Will climate change be catastrophic as in reducing the world to the stone age, I doubt it. Has climate change contributed to the California wild fires last year, probably. Would the people of Ventura county call 2018 catastrophic? Definitely.

      • Fred from BC says:

        “What we have is a theory that adding CO2 causes the earth to warm and a huge amount of evidence to backup that theory. ”

        The problem is, so much of that evidence has been irrevocably corrupted by those who make their living promoting the theory of CAGW (which is now a TRILLION dollar industry, is it not?). Even the once respected ‘peer review’ system has now been hopelessly co-opted and twisted into servicing only The Narrative ™.

        Their first mistake (even before the Hockey Stick and tree ring debacles) was allowing the UN to have *any part* in this; if there has ever been an organization so totally corrupt, completely inept and absolutely self-serving as the United Nations, I can’t think of it. Remember how they released their conclusions first and then “adjusted” their data to suit it? (they bragged about it!) Remember the LIE about “97% consensus”? Or the thousands of scientists who tried to sue them for misrepresenting their work? How about the way-over-the-top claims of sea level rises that never happened and (forcing them to change their estimates with each new report) and the “ice-free” arctic we should have had decades ago?

        And right after they claimed that CO2 caused warming, didn’t they uncover new evidence (ice cores, I think) proving that the temperature actually went up *before* the CO2 levels? Didn’t they try to deny the existence of the Little Ice Age and the Medieval Warm Period by fabricating graphs with certain time periods inexplicably ‘missing’? (they’ve since used that one a lot) . Then of course when the world refused to get warmer for 15 years or so, it forced them to change from ‘Global Warming’ to ‘Climate Change’…then they blamed that “hiatus” on the oceans acidifying and “absorbing heat” from the atmosphere (seriously…they did…).

        I won’t even bother with the East Anglia stuff, because frankly I now believe NOTHING that NASA, NOAA, the EPA or any of these other paid shills put out. Not one bit of it, sorry. All these people who are now panicking and wondering why the general public just isn’t taking this stuff seriously, here’s your answer: it’s the Boy Who Cried Wolf scenario, pure and simple.

  2. John says:

    Jay, it appears my comment got caught up in your spam filter – or you are censoring me 😉

  3. John Cross says:

    Hi Jay, my comments seem to be stuck in your spam filter

  4. Jay Currie says:

    Hi John, I see one from you on May 16…are there others??

  5. John Cross says:

    Hi Jay, yes there is a point by point reply to Fred. Not sure what happened since when it didn’t show up I submitted it again and it said I had already submitted that comment.

  6. John Cross says:

    I submitted another one, maybe it will get through. Kept a copy this time.

    Thanks
    John

  7. John Cross says:

    Fred: I am a little disappointed by your first statement. Not due to your statement, but due to the fact that if CAGW is a trillion $ a year you would think I could get something out of it! Unfortunately, nothing!

    However I have been involved in the peer review process from both sides and I know that a lot of people don’t really understand it. Being peer reviewed is not a stamp certifying that the paper is correct, it is just an indication that the paper is deemed worthy of being put before the scientific community.

    The rest of your statement is mostly opinion which you are fully entitled to, but it is not a substitute for fact. To take a couple of examples.

    In regards to the 97% consensus, I would not call it a lie since it was based on a certain set of assumptions. The most recent analysis uses a different set of assumptions and produces a result of 99.97% agreement. Add to this the fact that no formal scientific body with national or international standing disagrees with what can be considered the consensus position I think that it is pretty clear that the scientific community agrees with the AGW (not CAGW).

    In regards to your claim that the IPCC has adjusted its sea level rise rate, I would like to see your evidence for that. However in general I will comment that I would expect a scientific body that gains new observations to change its projections based on new insights. Thus what you see as a bug, I see as a feature.

    Also, I know of no body that predicted an ice free arctic in the year 2,000. But as always I would love to see any evidence you had for that so I can assess it myself.

    The ice cores and temperature rise is an interesting topic, a little too large to comment on here but I would be more than willing to address it in detail if you want.

    As to the pause in temperatures, I was never a big fan of the idea of a hiatus. I discussed it extensively with Jay on his old site which he deleted or I would refer you to those discussions. While a couple of years ago you could argue a hiatus if you excluded data from before the year 2000, there is no logical way you can argue for a hiatus now. Of course you could argue that the period in time from 2005 to 2009 represents the true trend which gives you a negative trend, but good luck with that argument.

    Finally, I don’t know of your experience with the UN, but a lot of what I do is based on and feeds into a UN organization and while they are very slow to respond to issues, they perform an extremely useful function which provides a huge benefit to both economies and individuals.

    Regards,
    John

    • Neil says:

      John, the Cook study leading to the 97% figure is not robust as I am sure you agree. All agree that CO2 leads to warming in isolation but its efficacy as a positive forcing agent in a non-linear, chaotic system is still subject to much debate – see my comment below.

      • John Cross says:

        Neil, I was part of a group that looked at a collection of papers posted that were purported to show disagreement AGW. That is why I am careful to say that it depends a lot on definitions. That particular collection defined not saying anything as disagreement. In other words if a paper looked at – say climate in Ontario in regards to flooding from a statistical/historical basis, but did not mention AGW, it was taken as disagreeing with the consensus.

        I general I have not seen anything to convince me that it is anything less than 97% and likely higher.

  8. Neil says:

    Hello John Cross. I have done much reading since we last debated 10 or so years ago – I posted as ’N’ requiring some anonymity for work reasons at the time.

    I try not to use lose definitions but rather work at being deliberate with my words to ensure I am arguing against so-called settled science vis-à-vis catastrophic, anthropogenic global warming (CAGW); I use catastrophic in the sense that man is causing the earth as whole to fry. Further, I am not arguing as a denialist, even though I do keep my tin-foil hat well polished, but rather as an agnostic. I agree that CO2 is a green house gas that causes warming in isolation but within a non-linear, chaotic system like the atmosphere, is CO2 working as a positive forcing agent that is sufficient to cause catastrophic warming of the kind envisioned by the alarmists? Certainly a wildfire is catastrophic but I am not convinced that the climate is sufficiently sensitive to increased CO2 content whether man-made or not to generate the extent of global warming generally projected. I cite things like the following to argue that the science is absolutely not settled and many, many academics, politicians and consultants flog the consensus in order to keep the rice-bowl full and their sinecures intact:

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/05/08/the-effectiveness-of-co2-as-a-greenhouse-gas-becomes-ever-more-marginal-with-greater-concentration/

    https://judithcurry.com/2015/05/26/observational-support-for-lindzens-iris-hypothesis/

    I realize that proof is elusive in science but folks often get there in the end, e.g. Newton’s law of universal gravitation. So I expect climate science to get closer to this kind of confirmation before I accept CAGW as a given. I know that there are many claims of confirmation but there is considerable contradictory evidence as noted above. Also, there is much deception in the evidence presented e.g. Al Gore’s curves, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ3PzYU1N7A. And much use of CO2 as an environmental villain; hucksters like Maurice Strong et al furthered their agenda as watermelons who needed a new wealth-transfer vehicle when the USSR got kicked to the curb in 1989. And much doubt as to the accuracy of temperature data due to a fiddling with the numbers, the dearth of weather stations on a world-wide basis, and the site problems with stations that do exist e.g. proximity of air-conditioning equipment or locations on asphalt.

    Consequently, I absolutely object to such policy initiatives as carbon taxes because they bring much harm to me directly when there is insufficient proof of their effectiveness, particularly here in Canada where our contribution to increased atmospheric CO2 is only about 2%. Even if all the claims of human-generated CO2 were shown to be absolutely true, no amount of taxation on goods with inelastic demand like gasoline or heating fuel would have any material effect any all; if CO2 were truly the problem loudly hyped by Barbie and shown to be efficacious, I would pay up gladly and help lead the parade.

    When it comes to policy initiatives, why not put the $2.65 B we sent to third world dictators – Skippy’s first act in office as I recall – towards mitigating measures to protect assets threatened by weather / climate disasters? https://pm.gc.ca/eng/news/2015/11/27/prime-minister-announces-investment-global-climate-change-action. Note that many of these disasters are the result of $Bs in assets being placed in harms way by an increased population with increased wealth, not because of an increase in the number of events.

    I close with the thought that perhaps I am wrong and that Skippy is in fact far more perspicacious than generally thought. There appears to be overwhelming evidence that we are having the coldest, wettest spring in 50+ years, at least here in Ontario. Clearly that is because our L‘il Potato brought in his carbon tax April 1. Best N

  9. Neil Wilson says:

    John re your reply to my comment above on the 97% question – no reply button under your 12:23 comment. This letter from eminent climate scientists to the UN Sec Gen just before the Copenhagen conference is of far greater value than 7% of (all kinds of) scientists. gets around the definition issue. I know it is dated but I have never seen a reply.

    Open Letter to Secretary-General of United Nations
    His Excellency Ban Ki Moon
    Secretary-General, United Nations
    New York, NY
    United States of America
    8 December 2009
    Dear Secretary-General,
    Climate change science is in a period of ‘negative discovery’ – the more we learn about this exceptionally complex and rapidly evolving field the more we realize how little we know. Truly, the science is NOT settled.

    Therefore, there is no sound reason to impose expensive and restrictive public policy decisions on the peoples of the Earth without first providing convincing evidence that human activities are causing dangerous climate change beyond that resulting from natural causes. Before any precipitate action is taken, we must have solid observational data demonstrating that recent changes in climate differ substantially from changes observed in the past and are well in excess of normal variations caused by solar cycles, ocean currents, changes in the Earth’s orbital parameters and other natural phenomena.

    We the undersigned, being qualified in climate-related scientific disciplines, challenge the UNFCCC and supporters of the United Nations Climate Change Conference to produce convincing OBSERVATIONAL EVIDENCE for their claims of dangerous human-caused global warming and other changes in climate. Projections of possible future scenarios from unproven computer models of climate are not acceptable substitutes for real world data obtained through unbiased and rigorous scientific investigation.

    Specifically, we challenge supporters of the hypothesis of dangerous human-caused climate change to demonstrate that:
     
    Variations in global climate in the last hundred years are significantly outside the natural range experienced in previous centuries;

    Humanity’s emissions of carbon dioxide and other ‘greenhouse gases’ (GHG) are having a dangerous impact on global climate;

    Computer-based models can meaningfully replicate the impact of all of the natural factors that may significantly influence climate;

    Sea levels are rising dangerously at a rate that has accelerated with increasing human GHG emissions, thereby threatening small islands and coastal communities;

    The incidence of malaria is increasing due to recent climate changes;

    Human society and natural ecosystems cannot adapt to foreseeable climate change as they have done in the past;

    Worldwide glacier retreat, and sea ice melting in Polar Regions , is unusual and related to increases in human GHG emissions;

    Polar bears and other Arctic and Antarctic wildlife are unable to adapt to anticipated local climate change effects, independent of the causes of those changes;

    Hurricanes, other tropical cyclones and associated extreme weather events are increasing in severity and frequency;

    Data recorded by ground-based stations are a reliable indicator of surface temperature trends.
     
    It is not the responsibility of ‘climate realist’ scientists to prove that dangerous human-caused climate change is not happening. Rather, it is those who propose that it is, and promote the allocation of massive investments to solve the supposed ‘problem’, who have the obligation to convincingly demonstrate that recent climate change is not of mostly natural origin and, if we do nothing, catastrophic change will ensue. To date, this they have utterly failed to do so.
    Signed by:

    Habibullo I. Abdussamatov, Dr. Sci., mathematician and astrophysicist, Head of the Russian-Ukrainian Astrometria project on the board of the Russian segment of the ISS, Head of Space Research Laboratory at the Pulkovo Observatory of the Russian Academy of Sciences, St. Petersburg, Russia
    Göran Ahlgren, docent organisk kemi, general secretary of the Stockholm Initiative, Professor of Organic Chemistry, Stockholm, Sweden
    Syun-Ichi Akasofu, PhD, Professor of Physics, Emeritus and Founding Director, International Arctic Research Center of the University of Alaska, Fairbanks, Alaska, U.S.A.
    J.R. Alexander, Professor Emeritus, Dept. of Civil Engineering, University of Pretoria, South Africa; Member, UN Scientific and Technical Committee on Natural Disasters, 1994-2000, Pretoria, South Africa.
    Jock Allison, PhD, ONZM, formerly Ministry of Agriculture Regional Research Director, Dunedin, New Zealand
    Bjarne Andresen, PhD, dr. scient, physicist, published and presents on the impossibility of a “global temperature”, Professor, The Niels Bohr Institute, University of Copenhagen, Denmark
    Timothy F. Ball, PhD, environmental consultant and former climatology professor, University of Winnipeg, Member, Science Advisory Board, ICSC, Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
    Douglas W. Barr, BS (Meteorology, University of Chicago), BS and MS (Civil Engineering, University of Minnesota), Barr Engineering Co. (environmental issues and water resources), Minnesota, U.S.A.
    Romuald Bartnik, PhD (Organic Chemistry), Professor Emeritus, Former chairman of the Department of Organic and Applied Chemistry, climate work in cooperation with Department of Hydrology and Geological Museum, University of Lodz, Lodz, Poland
    Colin Barton, B.Sc., PhD, Earth Science, Principal research scientist (retd), Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation (CSIRO), Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
    Joe Bastardi, BSc, (Meteorology, Pennsylvania State), meteorologist, State College, Pennsylvania, U.S.A.
    Ernst-Georg Beck, Dipl. Biol. (University of Freiburg), Biologist, Freiburg, Germany
    David Bellamy, OBE, English botanist, author, broadcaster, environmental campaigner, Hon. Professor of Botany (Geography), University of Nottingham, Hon. Prof. Faculty of Engineering and Physical Systems, Central Queensland University, Hon. Prof. of Adult and Continuing Education, University of Durham, United Nations Environment Program Global 500 Award Winner, Dutch Order of The Golden Ark, Bishop Auckland County, Durham, U.K.
    M. I. Bhat, Professor & Head, Department of Geology & Geophysics, University of Kashmir, Srinagar, Jammu & Kashmir, India
    Ian R. Bock, BSc, PhD, DSc, Biological sciences (retired), Ringkobing, Denmark
    Sonja A. Boehmer-Christiansen, PhD, Reader Emeritus, Dept. of Geography, Hull University, Editor – Energy&Environment, Multi-Science (www.multi-science.co.uk), Hull, United Kingdom
    Atholl Sutherland Brown, PhD (Geology, Princeton University), Regional Geology, Tectonics and Mineral Deposits, Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
    Stephen C. Brown, PhD (Environmental Science, State University of New York), District Agriculture Agent, Assistant Professor, University of Alaska Fairbanks, Ground Penetrating Radar Glacier research, Palmer, Alaska, U.S.A.
    James Buckee, D.Phil. (Oxon), focus on stellar atmospheres, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
    Dan Carruthers, M.Sc., Arctic Animal Behavioural Ecologist, wildlife biology consultant specializing in animal ecology in Arctic and Subarctic regions, Alberta, Canada
    Robert M. Carter, PhD, Professor, Marine Geophysical Laboratory, James Cook University, Townsville, Australia
    Dr. Arthur V. Chadwick, PhD, Geologist, dendrochronology (analyzing tree rings to determine past climate) lecturing, Southwestern Adventist University, Keene, Texas, U.S.A.
    George V. Chilingar, PhD, Member, Russian Academy of Sciences, Moscow President, Russian Academy of Natural Sciences, U.S.A. Section, Emeritus Professor of Civil and Environmental Engineering, University of Southern California, Los Angeles, California, U.S.A.
    Ian D. Clark, PhD, Professor (isotope hydrogeology and paleoclimatology), Dept. of Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
    Charles A. Clough, BS (Mathematics, Massachusetts Institute of Technology), MS (Atmospheric Science, Texas Tech University), former (to 2006) Chief of the US Army Atmospheric Effects Team at Aberdeen Proving Ground, Maryland; now residing in Bel Air, Maryland, U.S.A.
    Paul Copper, BSc, MSc, PhD, DIC, FRSC, Professor Emeritus, Department of Earth Sciences, Laurentian University Sudbury, Ontario, Canada
    Piers Corbyn, MSc (Physics (Imperial College London)), ARCS, FRAS, FRMetS, astrophysicist (Queen Mary College, London), consultant, founder WeatherAction long range forecasters, London, United Kingdom
    Allan Cortese, meteorological researcher and spotter for the National Weather Service, retired computer professional, Billerica, Massachusetts, U.S.A.
    Richard S. Courtney, PhD, energy and environmental consultant, IPCC expert reviewer, Falmouth, Cornwall, United Kingdom
    Susan Crockford, PhD (Zoology/Evolutionary Biology/Archaeozoology), Adjunct Professor (Anthropology/Faculty of Graduate Studies), University of Victoria, Victoria, British Colombia, Canada
    Claude Culross, PhD (Organic Chemistry), retired, Baton Rouge, Louisiana, U.S.A.
    Joseph D’Aleo, BS, MS (Meteorology, University of Wisconsin),  Doctoral Studies (NYU), Executive Director – ICECAP (International Climate and Environmental Change Assessment Project), Fellow of the AMS, College Professor Climatology/Meteorology, First Director of Meteorology The Weather Channel, Hudson, New Hampshire, U.S.A.
    Chris R. de Freitas, PhD, Climate Scientist, School of Environment, The University of Auckland, New Zealand
    Willem de Lange, MSc (Hons), DPhil (Computer and Earth Sciences), Senior Lecturer in Earth and Ocean Sciences, Waikato University, Hamilton, New Zealand
    James DeMeo, PhD (University of Kansas 1986, Earth/Climate Science), now in Private Research, Ashland, Oregon, U.S.A.
    David Deming, PhD (Geophysics), Associate Professor, College of Arts and Sciences, University of Oklahoma, Norman, Oklahoma, U.S.A.
    James E Dent; B.Sc., FCIWEM, C.Met, FRMetS, C.Env., Independent Consultant, Member of WMO OPACHE Group on Flood Warning, Hadleigh, Suffolk, England
    Robert W. Durrenberger, PhD, former Arizona State Climatologist and President of the American Association of State Climatologists, Professor Emeritus of Geography, Arizona State University; Sun City, Arizona, U.S.A.
    Don J. Easterbrook, PhD, Emeritus Professor of Geology, Western Washington, University, Bellingham, Washington, U.S.A.
    Per Engene, MSc, Biologist, Bø i Telemark, Norway, Co-author The Climate. Science and Politics (2009)
    Robert H. Essenhigh, PhD, E.G. Bailey Professor of Energy Conversion, Dept. of Mechanical Engineering, The Ohio State University,  Columbus, Ohio, U.S.A.
    David Evans, PhD (EE), MSc (Stat), MSc (EE), MA (Math), BE (EE), BSc, mathematician, carbon accountant and modeler, computer and electrical engineer and head of ‘Science Speak’, Scientific Advisory Panel member – Australian Climate Science Coalition, Perth, Western Australia, Australia
    Sören Floderus, PhD (Physical Geography (Uppsala University)), coastal-environment specialization, Copenhagen, Denmark
    Louis Fowler, BS (Mathematics), MA (Physics), 33 years in environmental measurements (Ambient Air Quality Measurements), Austin, Texas, U.S.A.
    Stewart Franks, PhD, Professor, Hydroclimatologist, University of Newcastle, Australia
    Gordon Fulks, PhD (Physics, University of Chicago), cosmic radiation, solar wind, electromagnetic and geophysical phenomena, Corbett, Oregon, U.S.A.
    R. W. Gauldie, PhD, Research Professor, Hawai’i Institute of Geophysics and Planetology, School of Ocean Earth Sciences and Technology, University of Hawai’i at Manoa (Retired), U.S.A.
    David G. Gee, Professor of Geology (Emeritus), Department of Earth Sciences, Uppsala University, Villavagen 16, Uppsala, Sweden
    Lee C. Gerhard, PhD, Senior Scientist Emeritus, University of Kansas, past director and state geologist, Kansas Geological Survey, U.S.A.
    Gerhard Gerlich, Dr.rer.nat. (Mathematical Physics: Magnetohydrodynamics) habil. (Real Measure Manifolds), Professor, Institut für Mathematische Physik, Technische Universität Carolo-Wilhelmina zu Braunschweig, Braunschweig, Germany, Co-author of “Falsification Of The Atmospheric CO2 Greenhouse Effects Within The Frame Of Physics”, Int.J.Mod.Phys.,2009
    Albrecht Glatzle, PhD, ScAgr, Agro-Biologist and Gerente ejecutivo, Tropical pasture research and land use management, Director científico de INTTAS, Loma Plata, Paraguay
    Fred Goldberg, PhD, Adj Professor, Royal Institute of Technology (Mech, Eng.), Secretary General KTH International Climate Seminar 2006 and Climate analyst and member of NIPCC, Lidingö, Sweden
    Wayne Goodfellow, PhD (Earth Science), Ocean Evolution, Paleoenvironments, Adjunct Professor, Senior Research Scientist, University of Ottawa, Geological Survey of Canada, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
    Thomas B. Gray, MS, Meteorology, Retired, USAF, Yachats, Oregon, U.S.A.
    Vincent Gray, PhD, New Zealand Climate Coalition, expert reviewer for the IPCC, author of The Greenhouse Delusion: A Critique of Climate Change 2001, Wellington, New Zealand
    William M. Gray, PhD, Professor Emeritus, Dept. of Atmospheric Science, Colorado State University, Head of the Tropical Meteorology Project, Fort Collins, Colorado, U.S.A.
    Kenneth P. Green, M.Sc. (Biology, University of San Diego) and a Doctorate in Environmental Science and Engineering from the University of California at Los Angeles, Resident Scholar, American Enterprise Institute, Washington, DC, U.S.A.
    Charles B. Hammons, PhD (Applied Mathematics), systems/software engineering, modeling & simulation, design, Consultant, Coyle, Oklahoma, U.S.A.
    William Happer, PhD, Cyrus Fogg Bracket Professor of Physics (research focus is interaction of light and matter, a key mechanism for global warming and cooling), Princeton University; Former Director, Office of Energy Research (now Office of Science), US Department of Energy (supervised climate change research), Member – National Academy of Sciences of the USA, American Academy of Arts and Sciences, American Philosophical Society; Princeton, NJ, USA.
    Howard Hayden, PhD, Emeritus Professor (Physics), University of Connecticut, The Energy Advocate, Connecticut, U.S.A.
    Ross Hays, Atmospheric Scientist, NASA Columbia Scientific Balloon Facility, Palestine, Texas, U.S.A.
    James A. Heimbach, Jr., BA Physics (Franklin and Marshall College), Master’s and PhD in Meteorology (Oklahoma University), Prof. Emeritus of Atmospheric Sciences (University of North Carolina at Asheville), Springvale, Maine, U.S.A.
    Ole Humlum, PhD, Professor, Department of Physical Geography, Institute of Geosciences, University of Oslo, Oslo, Norway
    Craig D. Idso, PhD, Chairman of the Board of Directors of the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change, Tempe, Arizona, U.S.A.
    Sherwood B. Idso, PhD, President, Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change, Tempe, Arizona, U.S.A.
    Terri Jackson, MSc MPhil., Director, Independent Climate Research Group, Northern Ireland and London (Founder of the Energy Group at the Institute of Physics, London), U.K.
    Albert F. Jacobs, Geol.Drs., P. Geol., Calgary, Alberta, Canada
    Zbigniew Jaworowski, PhD, DSc, professor of natural sciences, Senior Science Adviser of Central Laboratory for Radiological Protection, researcher on ice core CO2 records, Warsaw, Poland.
    Terrell Johnson, B.S. (Zoology), M.S. (Wildlife & Range Resources, Air & Water Quality), Principal Environmental Engineer, Certified Wildlife Biologist, Green River, Wyoming, U.S.A.
    Bill Kappel, BS (Physical Science-Geology), BS (Meteorology), Storm Analysis, Climatology, Operation Forecasting, Vice President/Senior Meteorologist, Applied Weather Associates, LLC, University of Colorado, Colorado Springs, U.S.A.
    Wibjörn Karlén, MSc (quaternary sciences), PhD (physical geography), Professor emeritus, Stockholm University, Department of Social and Economic Geography, Geografiska Annaler Ser. A, Uppsala, Sweden
    Olavi Kärner, Ph.D., Extraordinary Research Associate; Dept. of Atmospheric Physics, Tartu Observatory, Toravere, Estonia
    David Kear, PhD, FRSNZ, CMG, geologist, former Director-General of NZ Dept. of Scientific & Industrial Research, Whakatane, Bay of Plenty, New Zealand
    Madhav L. Khandekar, PhD, consultant meteorologist, (former) Research Scientist, Environment Canada, Editor “Climate Research” (03-05), Editorial Board Member “Natural Hazards, IPCC Expert Reviewer 2007, Unionville, Ontario, Canada
    Leonid F. Khilyuk, PhD, Science Secretary, Russian Academy of Natural Sciences, Professor of Engineering, University of Southern California, Los Angeles, California, U.S.A.
    William Kininmonth MSc, MAdmin, former head of Australia’s National Climate Centre and a consultant to the World Meteorological organization’s Commission for Climatology, Kew, Victoria, Australia
    Gary Kubat, BS (Atmospheric Science), MS (Atmospheric Science), professional meteorologist last 18 years, O’Fallon, Illinois, U.S.A.
    Roar Larsen, Dr.ing.(PhD), Chief Scientist, SINTEF (Trondheim, Norway), Adjunct Professor, Norwegian University of Science and Technology, Trondheim, Norway
    Douglas Leahey, PhD, meteorologist and air-quality consultant, President – Friends of Science, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
    Jay Lehr, BEng (Princeton), PhD (environmental science and ground water hydrology), Science Director, The Heartland Institute, Chicago, Illinois, U.S.A.
    Edward Liebsch, BS (Earth Science & Chemistry), MS (Meteorology, Pennsylvania State University), Senior Air Quality Scientist, HDR Inc., Maple Grove, MN, U.S.A.
    Dr. Richard S. Lindzen, Alfred P. Sloan professor of meteorology, Dept. of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge, Massachusetts, U.S.A.
    Peter Link, BS, MS, PhD (Geology, Climatology), Geol/Paleoclimatology, retired, Active in Geol-paleoclimatology, Tulsa University and Industry, Evergreen, Colorado, U.S.A.
    Anthony R. Lupo, Ph.D., Professor of Atmospheric Science, Department of Soil, Environmental, and Atmospheric Science, University of Missouri, Columbia, Missouri, U.S.A.
    Horst Malberg, PhD, former director of Institute of Meteorology, Free University of Berlin, Germany
    Björn Malmgren, PhD, Professor Emeritus in Marine Geology, Paleoclimate Science, Goteborg University, retired, Norrtälje, Sweden
    Fred Michel, PhD, Director, Institute of Environmental Sciences, Associate Professor of Earth Sciences, Carleton University, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
    Ferenc Mark Miskolczi, PhD, atmospheric physicist, formerly of NASA’s Langley Research Center, Hampton, Virginia, U.S.A.
    Asmunn Moene, PhD, MSc (Meteorology), former head of the Forecasting Centre, Meteorological Institute, Oslo, Norway
    Cdr. M. R. Morgan, PhD, FRMetS, climate consultant, former Director in marine meteorology policy and planning in DND Canada, NATO and World Meteorological Organization and later a research scientist in global climatology at Exeter University, UK, now residing in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Nils-Axel Mörner, PhD (Sea Level Changes and Climate), Emeritus Professor of Paleogeophysics & Geodynamics, Stockholm University, Stockholm, Sweden
    Robert Neff, M.S. (Meteorology, St Louis University), Weather Officer, USAF; Contractor support to NASA Meteorology Satellites, Retired, Camp Springs, Maryland, U.S.A.
    John Nicol, PhD, Physics, (Retired) James Cook University, Chairman – Australian Climate Science Coalition, Brisbane, Australia
    Ingemar Nordin, PhD, professor in philosophy of science (including a focus on “Climate research, philosophical and sociological aspects of a politicised research area”), Linköpings University, Sweden.
    David Nowell, M.Sc., Fellow of the Royal Meteorological Society, former chairman of the NATO Meteorological Group, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
    James J. O’Brien, PhD, Emeritus Professor, Meteorology and Oceanography, Florida State University, Florida, U.S.A.
    Peter Oliver, BSc (Geology), BSc (Hons, Geochemistry & Geophysics), MSc (Geochemistry), PhD (Geology), specialized in NZ quaternary glaciations, Geochemistry and Paleomagnetism, previously research scientist for the NZ Department of Scientific and Industrial Research, Upper Hutt, New Zealand
    Cliff Ollier, D.Sc., Professor Emeritus (School of Earth and Environment), Research Fellow, University of Western Australia, Nedlands, W.A., Australia
    Garth W. Paltridge, BSc Hons (Qld), MSc, PhD (Melb), DSc (Qld), Emeritus Professor, Honorary Research Fellow and former Director of the Institute of Antarctic and Southern Ocean Studies, University of Tasmania, Hobart, Visiting Fellow, RSBS, ANU, Canberra, ACT, Australia
    R. Timothy Patterson, PhD, Professor, Dept. of Earth Sciences (paleoclimatology), Carleton University, Chair – International Climate Science Coalition, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
    Alfred H. Pekarek, PhD, Associate Professor of Geology, Earth and Atmospheric Sciences Department, St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, Minnesota, U.S.A.
    Ian Plimer, PhD, Professor of Mining Geology, The University of Adelaide; Emeritus Professor of Earth Sciences, The University of Melbourne, Australia
    Daniel Joseph Pounder, BS (Meteorology, University of Oklahoma), MS (Atmospheric Sciences, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign); Weather Forecasting, Meteorologist, WILL AM/FM/TV, the public broadcasting station of the University of Illinois, Urbana, U.S.A.
    Brian Pratt, PhD, Professor of Geology (Sedimentology), University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada
    Harry N.A. Priem, PhD, Professor (retired) Utrecht University, isotope and planetary geology, Past-President Royal Netherlands Society of Geology and Mining, former President of the Royal Geological and Mining Society of the Netherlands, Amsterdam, The Netherlands
    Tom Quirk, MSc (Melbourne), D Phil, MA (Oxford), SMP (Harvard), Member of the Scientific Advisory Panel of the Australian Climate Science Coalition, Member Board Institute of Public Affairs, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
    George A. Reilly, PhD (Geology), Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
    Robert G. Roper, PhD, DSc (University of Adelaide, South Australia), Emeritus Professor of Atmospheric Sciences, Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta, Georgia, U.S.A.
    Arthur Rorsch, PhD, Emeritus Professor, Molecular Genetics, Leiden University, retired member board Netherlands Organization Applied Research TNO, Leiden, The Netherlands
    Curt Rose, BA, MA (University of Western Ontario), MA, PhD (Clark University), Professor Emeritus, Department of Environmental Studies and Geography, Bishop’s University, Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada
    Rob Scagel, MSc (forest microclimate specialist), Principal Consultant – Pacific Phytometric Consultants, Surrey, British Columbia, Canada
    Clive Schaupmeyer, B.Sc., M.Sc., Professional Agrologist (awarded an Alberta “Distinguished Agrologist”), 40 years of weather and climate studies with respect to crops, Coaldale, Alberta, Canada
    Bruce Schwoegler, BS (Meteorology and Naval Science, University of Wisconsin-Madison), Chief Technology Officer, MySky Communications Inc, meteorologist, science writer and principal/co-founder of MySky, Lakeville, Massachusetts, U.S.A.
    John Shade, BS (Physics), MS (Atmospheric Physics), MS (Applied Statistics), Industrial Statistics Consultant, GDP, Dunfermline, Scotland, United Kingdom
    Gary Sharp, PhD, Center for Climate/Ocean Resources Study, Salinas, California, U.S.A.
    Thomas P. Sheahen, PhD (Physics, Massachusetts Institute of Technology), specialist in renewable energy, research and publication (Applied Optics) in modeling and measurement of absorption of infrared radiation by atmospheric CO2, Oakland, Maryland, U.S.A.
    Paavo Siitam, M.Sc., agronomist and chemist, Cobourg, Ontario, Canada
    L. Graham Smith, PhD, Associate Professor of Geography, specialising in Resource Management, University of Western Ontario, London, Ontario, Canada.
    Roy W. Spencer, PhD, climatologist, Principal Research Scientist, Earth System Science Center, The University of Alabama, Huntsville, Alabama, U.S.A.
    Walter Starck, PhD (Biological Oceanography), marine biologist (specialization in coral reefs and fisheries), author, photographer, Townsville, Australia
    Peter Stilbs, TeknD, Professor of Physical Chemistry, Research Leader, School of Chemical Science and Engineering, Royal Institute of Technology (KTH), member of American Chemical Society and life member of American Physical Society, Chair of “Global Warming – Scientific Controversies in Climate Variability”, International seminar meeting at KTH, 2006, Stockholm, Sweden
    Arlin Super, PhD (Meteorology), former Professor of Meteorology at Montana State University, retired Research Meteorologist, U.S. Bureau of Reclamation, Saint Cloud, Minnesota, U.S.A.
    George H. Taylor, B.A. (Mathematics, U.C. Santa Barbara), M.S. (Meteorology, University of Utah), Certified Consulting Meteorologist, Applied Climate Services, LLC, Former State Climatologist (Oregon), President, American Association of State Climatologists (1998-2000), Corvallis, Oregon, U.S.A.
    Mitchell Taylor, PhD, Biologist (Polar Bear Specialist), Wildlife Research Section, Department of Environment, Igloolik, Nunavut, Canada
    Hendrik Tennekes, PhD, former director of research, Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute, Arnhem, The Netherlands
    Frank Tipler, PhD, Professor of Mathematical Physics, astrophysics, Tulane University, New Orleans, Louisiana, U.S.A.
    Edward M. Tomlinson, MS (Meteorology), Ph.D. (Meteorology, University of Utah), President, Applied Weather Associates, LLC (leader in extreme rainfall storm analyses), 21 years US Air Force in meteorology (Air Weather Service), Monument, Colorado, U.S.A.
    Ralf D. Tscheuschner, Dr.rer.nat. (Theoretical physics: Quantum Theory), Freelance Lecturer and Researcher in Physics and Applied Informatics, Hamburg, Germany. Co-author of “Falsification of The Atmospheric CO2 Greenhouse Effects Within The Frame Of Physics, Int.J.Mod.Phys. 2009
    Gerrit J. van der Lingen, PhD (Utrecht University), geologist and paleoclimatologist, climate change consultant, Geoscience Research and Investigations, Christchurch, New Zealand
    A.J. (Tom) van Loon, PhD, Professor of Geology (Quaternary Geology), Adam Mickiewicz University, Poznan, Poland; former President of the European Association of Science Editors
    Gösta Walin, PhD in Theoretical physics, Professor emeritus in oceanography, Earth Science Center, Göteborg University, Göteborg, Sweden
    Neil Waterhouse, PhD (Physics, Thermal, Precise Temperature Measurement), retired, National Research Council, Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
    Anthony Watts, 25-year broadcast meteorology veteran and currently chief meteorologist for KPAY-AM radio. In 1987, he founded ItWorks, which supplies custom weather stations, Internet servers, weather graphics content, and broadcast video equipment. In 2007, Watts founded SurfaceStations.org, a Web site devoted to photographing and documenting the quality of weather stations across the U.S., U.S.A.
    Charles L. Wax, PhD (physical geography: climatology, LSU), State Climatologist – Mississippi, past President of the American Association of State Climatologists, Professor, Department of Geosciences, Mississippi State University, U.S.A.
    James Weeg, BS (Geology), MS (Environmental Science), Professional Geologist/hydrologist, Advent Environmental Inc, Mt. Pleasant, South Carolina, U.S.A.
    Forese-Carlo Wezel, PhD, Emeritus Professor of Stratigraphy (global and Mediterranean geology, mass biotic extinctions and paleoclimatology), University of Urbino, Urbino, Italy
    Boris Winterhalter, PhD, senior marine researcher (retired), Geological Survey of Finland, former adjunct professor in marine geology, University of Helsinki, Helsinki, Finland
    David E. Wojick, PhD, PE, energy and environmental consultant, Technical Advisory Board member – Climate Science Coalition of America, Star Tannery, Virginia, U.S.A.
    Raphael Wust, PhD, Adj Sen. Lecturer, Marine Geology/Sedimentology, James Cook University, Townsville, Australia
    Stan Zlochen, BS (Atmospheric Science), MS (Atmospheric Science), USAF (retired), Omaha, Nebraska, U.S.A.
    Dr. Bob Zybach, PhD (Oregon State University (OSU), Environmental Sciences Program), MAIS (OSU, Forest Ecology, Cultural Anthropology, Historical Archaeology), BS (OSU College of Forestry), President, NW Maps Co., Program Manager, Oregon Websites and Watersheds Project, Inc., Cottage Grove, Oregon, U.S.A.

    • Neil Wilson says:

      That is 97%

      • John Cross says:

        Neil, I addressed this with my comment above. I mention it hear since I don’t want it to get lost in that very impressive list you copied here.

        However due respect for using your name. I understand the desire for confidentiality more than most since a prominent skeptic used my real name to address me in comments and thus “outed” me. Some say by accident, some say on purpose to intimidate me. Doesn’t matter anymore.

    • John Cross says:

      Neil, this is why definitions are so important. What you posted was a list of people who are willing to express an opinion. When I talk about a 97% consensus I am referring to scientific papers. While everyone on that list is free to express an opinion when it comes to a scientific argument I am more inclined to agree with scientific papers that i can review.

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